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Filming a full 🏀 game with a gimbal | Zhiyun Cinepeer Weebill 3E
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EPISODE BREAKDOWN
0:00 Intro
0:54 Disclaimer
1:14 My focal length
1:36 Basketball game edit (gimbal footage only)
3:04 Debrief
3:20 Zhiyun Cinepeer Weebill 3E Gimbal
4:21 Filming a basketball game with a gimbal: THE PROS
5:19 Filming a basketball game with a gimbal: THE CONS
7:07 My advice for filming sports with a gimbal
9:07 Zhiyun Cinepeer Weebill 3E Gimbal - Promo Code
9:20 How to shoot sports handheld like a pro
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @esabrenneman8358
    @esabrenneman8358 5 годин тому

    Track artist name?

  • @quidgehog
    @quidgehog День тому

    Have you ever got a copyright strike?

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E День тому

      No. But I got a warning for making a video explaining how to download content from UA-cam.

    • @quidgehog
      @quidgehog День тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E Okay, thank you. Great content btw.

  • @GameSpeedMambas
    @GameSpeedMambas День тому

    I bought the Sony Handyman for basketball use, now I'm back watching your video lol.

  • @paulgero
    @paulgero 2 дні тому

    Thanks for the review E. I actually like the mist...maybe a slight bit less intense, but it really doesn't bother me. I also love the crowd react shots...they look great and I think the 35mm perspective is superb. I shoot a lot of primes with my sports because I am doing mostly preps since I switch from stills to video often during games. Also, the FX3 has the ability to use Clear Image zoom rocker and it works well and can give you some of the benefits of the zoom without the zoom. And speaking of the zoom, you might check out the 20-70 f4 G ..it's a small and light one that works well on these mini types of gimbals and at a fixed aperture of f4 throughout the range it can be a nice way to change focal lengths quickly without the bulk of the 35-150 or 70-200. One thing I did a lot this past season was put a 20mm or the 20-70 on my gimbal and then keep it aimed at the basket as a bit of a safety angle (angled up and just positioned on the floor near me) and then I could gimbal pre game and intros. The other camera I used was typically the 135 1.8 on the a1 so I could shoot stills and video. I would set the dial so that the stills had my 1/1250 th at f1.8 settings locked in and then the video dial was set for 1/125th at same aperture for 60P video. Occasionally I would have a third body for handheld wide angle front court (like the 35 1.4) using the Peak Design leash to help stabilize.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 2 дні тому

      Thank you for your feedback and all your great suggestions. I'll try to use the clear image zoom next time for sure!

  • @aspilobo
    @aspilobo 2 дні тому

    Does anyone know if background blur/bokeh will be affected???

  • @arjuna207
    @arjuna207 2 дні тому

    How do you focus? Manual or auto?

  • @seecraig
    @seecraig 3 дні тому

    Using the gimbal's Go mode might help for sports. Were you using POV mode or did you also use Pan Follow or Follow mode? The ability to do underslung mode is great especially when players are running. Can you access Sony Clear Image Zoom? That might give you some zoom control. BTW I love the mist filter. The softer glowing lights are less distracting than harsh points.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 2 дні тому

      Thanks for the feedback! I was using the PF mode pretty much the entire time. I'll have to try the Go mode next time for sure though. And yes, you are right, I could have used clear image zoom to change my framing from time to time.

  • @ImperialSportsMedia
    @ImperialSportsMedia 3 дні тому

    Great vid E!

  • @neilgiesen7547
    @neilgiesen7547 3 дні тому

    when there is written 30 minutes of recording time, does it mean that it was one 30 minute video that was filmed which caused it to overheat ?

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 3 дні тому

      Not necessarily. Like I said in the video, if you record 30 minutes of content 1-2 minutes at a time, your camera will overheat.

  • @jeremylovechild
    @jeremylovechild 3 дні тому

    what mist filter and strength did you use? i think it looks great btw.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 3 дні тому

      Thanks! It’s a Polar Pro Quartzline Mist filter. It’s roughly 1/4 strength.

    • @paulgero
      @paulgero 2 дні тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E I bet 1/8th would look just perfect!

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 2 дні тому

      @@paulgero You're probably right!

  • @reelkinetic
    @reelkinetic 3 дні тому

    Have you ever used a Cine Saddle?

  • @maryskrudland1103
    @maryskrudland1103 4 дні тому

    Good quality content as usual. Your footage looks sooo good!

  • @hain5956
    @hain5956 4 дні тому

    what camera do you use to film?

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      A Sony FX3

    • @hain5956
      @hain5956 4 дні тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E I’m on a Sony a7ii currently and was thinking about going to that for the video how good is it for photos aswell

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      @@hain5956 It's definitely made for video first so it's more than good enough for my photo needs but it just depends on your needs and expectations.

    • @hain5956
      @hain5956 3 дні тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E i mostly do still photography with like cars and such, do most of my stuff in post and some sports photography but ill probably shoot video if it has to do with motion. after seeing the comparison photo wise it should be fine with the photos I take. thank you for responding btw ur a real one!

  • @djgogreen5954
    @djgogreen5954 4 дні тому

    With a zoom lens, balance the gimbal for the focal length at the center of the zoom range. Ex approx 50mm on a 24-70. Also flip out your lcd screen before balancing.

  • @aiydanf
    @aiydanf 4 дні тому

    These videos are absolute gems. Thanks for these - I work in sports broadcasting and have yearned to be a videographer and have that creative freedom. This is literally the perfect video as I plan on upgrading from my a6400 to a dedicated videography camera.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      Glad to be of service! What do you do in sports broadcasting if you don’t mind me asking?

    • @aiydanf
      @aiydanf 4 дні тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E I work for the Portland Sea Dogs baseball team (AA affil. of the Boston Red Sox). I started out as a camera operator, and now I am directing for the MiLB and MLB channels since graduating with my bach's in May. It's a sweet gig, but I miss being close to the action and on the field. The skills of broadcast camera operating don't entirely translate to what you and many other creative-focused people do, so thats my goal. Being a videographer for a major league team or in boxing/martial arts is the dream.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      Sounds like you’re on the right path!

  • @PaulRandles-editspace201
    @PaulRandles-editspace201 4 дні тому

    Great video and reel as always! I shot an ice hockey match using the Weebill S and Lumix GH5s and found the 'go' mode so good, you have to hold down the 'fn' button, it's so reactive - you should try it, if you haven't already. I rarely use the camera handheld because the lack of IBIS, I used a monopod on the day too. Quick question, I know you do a lot of motion tracking stuff in post and shoot 4K and edit in HD for flexibility, do you think this is still an option after shooting on a gimbal?

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      Yes I do. But I still export my videos in 4K by the way, not HD.

    • @PaulRandles-editspace201
      @PaulRandles-editspace201 4 дні тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E Oh right. But if you have punched in to avoid loss in resolution, using a 1080p timeline and then export in 4K does that not affect anything or am I misunderstanding?

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      @@PaulRandles-editspace201 I film in 4K, edit in 4K, and export in 4K. I don't really punch in much. I just film from various angles, zoom in and zoom out, and use the footage in its original form. But if I do punch in a little sometimes (like 10 to 30%), it is rarely noticeable.

    • @PaulRandles-editspace201
      @PaulRandles-editspace201 2 дні тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E Oh right okay cool, I asked about motion tracking originally using a HD timeline with 4K footage - just thought it would be a good option when filming on a gimbal especially on a wider lens. Thanks again for getting back to me!

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 2 дні тому

      @@PaulRandles-editspace201 You're right, it is a good option 👍🏽

  • @wm9742
    @wm9742 4 дні тому

    What camera was this? FX30 or FX3?

  • @EVOlutionHTC4g
    @EVOlutionHTC4g 4 дні тому

    You could have used a Sony power zoom lens. That's what I use with my Ronin 4, works great.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      True! I don't have one though. Plus, it would have to be an internal zoom otherwise the balancing gets thrown off every time the lens grows or shrinks.

    • @EVOlutionHTC4g
      @EVOlutionHTC4g День тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E The two PZ lens I have are internal zoom and I am using it with my Ronin 4. Does not throw off the balance at all.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E День тому

      @@EVOlutionHTC4g Sounds like a great setup!

  • @Godly_Roblox
    @Godly_Roblox 4 дні тому

    What if UA-cam didnt want people to see this and they copyrighted this video😂

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      UA-cam has blocked a couple other videos I made in the past around similar topics.

    • @Godly_Roblox
      @Godly_Roblox 3 дні тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E lol

  • @MrNobodycreating
    @MrNobodycreating 4 дні тому

    Hey thank you ! Also there is SWISSTRANSFER until 50gb files for free/no suscriptions. What is your render settings ? File format ? Yours videos are so great, helpful for many styles of videos, thank you so much

  • @mattyj2436
    @mattyj2436 4 дні тому

    Very helpful! 😮

  • @rcw6534
    @rcw6534 4 дні тому

    I think a mix of dynamic gimbal shots and fast paced hand held shots would be a perfect mix 👌🏼

  • @mattyj2436
    @mattyj2436 4 дні тому

    Great video!

  • @chrispanagos89
    @chrispanagos89 4 дні тому

    Hello, what lut do you use for the footage? Also you shot on SLOG 3; 100Frames or 60 and after you slow it?

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      I shoot in 4K/120 and then slow down the footage in post. I also shoot in SLOG3 and use a Phantom LUT as my utility LUT + my own Ultimate Sports LUT Pack as creative LUTs.

    • @chrispanagos89
      @chrispanagos89 4 дні тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E cool! Overexposure in SLOG3 and Nd filter on lens?

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      @@chrispanagos89 Not overexposed per say, I just import my utility LUT in camera and expose properly for it. And also no this is not an ND filter, just a mist filter.

  • @BeyondTheGame_E
    @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

    That mist filter is really annoying me every time I watch the footage. What do you guys think? Am I crazy?

    • @rcw6534
      @rcw6534 4 дні тому

      I love it 😂🎉

    • @seanmbranch
      @seanmbranch 4 дні тому

      It's honestly the first thing that hit me when I started the video (the fuzzy lights). Very distracting. Might be better for bigger venues where it isn't so prominent on the screen? The color grading is incredible by the way.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      @@rcw6534 Glad you like it, I wish I was able to myself! 😂

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      @@seanmbranch Yeah it's even worst at the start because they are right behind me as I'm talking to the camera so indeed very distracting. Thanks for the grade compliment!

    • @UltimateSportsFX
      @UltimateSportsFX 4 дні тому

      I love it on the action shots

  • @dans2971
    @dans2971 4 дні тому

    Garbage product

  • @shirakawanaoya
    @shirakawanaoya 5 днів тому

    I have seen a lot of videos on this camera which I also own but this one has been very very helpful and I am very grateful for it

  • @EddieCastilloATG
    @EddieCastilloATG 5 днів тому

    Hey E, I have a Sony A7IV & shoot basketball in decently lit indoor gyms, but I don’t want to grade much in post. What profile would you recommend?

  • @6mediatv
    @6mediatv 5 днів тому

    Great tips!

  • @leveloneej1858
    @leveloneej1858 5 днів тому

    Im doing everything but my footage is still grainy for some reason😵

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 5 днів тому

      If you are in fact filming at the native ISO of your camera, what you're seeing is not noise or grain. It's probably bad exposure or simply bad image quality.

    • @leveloneej1858
      @leveloneej1858 4 дні тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E yes I think its bad exposure, because especially in the dark areas there are some artefacts and I'm using the sony kit lense which isn't that great. Thanks for the reply:) How would you expose the profile HLG 3?

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 4 дні тому

      @@leveloneej1858 I would just try to keep the multi metering at 0 I think. But at the end of the day, low light is low light. You can't perform miracles.

    • @leveloneej1858
      @leveloneej1858 3 дні тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E Alright thanks for the advice

  • @arpantoppo6579
    @arpantoppo6579 5 днів тому

    Awesome tips🫀

  • @Cosmos.lord07
    @Cosmos.lord07 5 днів тому

    but where do you find the videos to edit?

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 5 днів тому

      You can film it yourself or download content from youtube.

  • @axl6670
    @axl6670 5 днів тому

    What about photos?

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 5 днів тому

      What do you mean exactly? A lens pretty much looks the same and acts the same whether you're doing photos or videos.

  • @teezjoint2
    @teezjoint2 6 днів тому

    Thanks for all the dope tutorials Im just getting started with a real camera and editing sports and your videos and tools you have provided has made the learning curve faster. Is the a free platform to convert the audio. I looked at the one you used but as of now it dont think ill use it enough to justify spending the money at the moment.

  • @iilynaaaas
    @iilynaaaas 6 днів тому

    I’ve learned alot from your channel lately bro, the way you explain the information is amazing. Keep it up ‼️✊🏾 Im trying to start videography but I didn’t think it’ll be this expensive lol😭

  • @paulneedham9885
    @paulneedham9885 6 днів тому

    A firmware update has helped with the overheating issue.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 6 днів тому

      Yeah I heard. I’d like to understand how it works though because overheating is much more related to hardware than firmware. Unless they simply raised the shutdown temperature threshold.

  • @agapsmiku
    @agapsmiku 6 днів тому

    super cool and surprisingly simple!

  • @Snatxs
    @Snatxs 6 днів тому

    This video was great but just had a quick question. When I was trying to set my picture profile to S-log3 it says I cant due to me using Cine el as my log shooting am I doing somthing wrong? Just swiched over from canon and slightly confused.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 6 днів тому

      Cine EI is a LOG shooting mode and, once you're in Cine EI, you are automatically using S-LOG3 and all the other PP options are blocked.

    • @Snatxs
      @Snatxs 6 днів тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E Ah makes sense, Thank you for being so helpful!

  • @frankerazo13
    @frankerazo13 7 днів тому

    If you are a Google Fiber subscriber, you get 1TB (Google Drive) with your subscription…

  • @mosleyboxing
    @mosleyboxing 7 днів тому

    Thank you, and very infornative. 💯

  • @michaelmiclat9702
    @michaelmiclat9702 7 днів тому

    When shooting the basketball footage did you use a color profile? I shoot on a Sony a7iii and for lowlight gyms shooting in slog is difficult because I can’t get the proper exposure without bumping my iso to high in which case I get to much grain.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 7 днів тому

      It was a long time ago but I think I was using Cine2

  • @LegionTheKid
    @LegionTheKid 8 днів тому

    What lens did you use for the ZV-E10?

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 8 днів тому

      The same two lenses I reviewed in this video ua-cam.com/video/omGdWeu0LLg/v-deo.html

  • @CleatzTV
    @CleatzTV 8 днів тому

    I use we transfer all day. 99 percent of your videos as a sports creative won't be over 2gb unless your doing some documentary work so I haven't had any problems yet.

  • @emiliogomez2870
    @emiliogomez2870 9 днів тому

    Video sucks how did you get the content?

  • @tekniqs
    @tekniqs 9 днів тому

    How would you say the autofocus on this compares to the fx30/fx3? Wondering if the Ai autofocus is a leap or just something nice to have.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 9 днів тому

      In the context of sports videography, it doesn't make much of a difference. There's always a bunch of people in your shot simultaneously and any camera will struggle in that situation because it's impossible for a camera to know which subject you want to focus on.

    • @tekniqs
      @tekniqs 9 днів тому

      @@BeyondTheGame_E hey thanks for the reply =) Yeah that makes sense. have you tried using it on mundane day to day? i know the fx30 AF was already good.

    • @BeyondTheGame_E
      @BeyondTheGame_E 9 днів тому

      @@tekniqs Well the only other type of filming I do other than sports is when I film myself for my youtube videos. But considering that I'm sitting on a chair the whole time while my camera is on a tripod, any camera with eye tracking would do a great job. The typical situation where the new AI makes a difference is when you have a subject that is moving around in your frame quite a bit, especially in difficult lighting situations.